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		<title>By: What If Markets Aren't Free? Can They Still be Efficient?</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-773</link>
		<dc:creator>What If Markets Aren't Free? Can They Still be Efficient?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for that: I use this blog as a forum to ask questions and generate discussion. I&#8217;ve had some great conversations here, on Twitter, and via email with many of you. I know that you are thinking [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for that: I use this blog as a forum to ask questions and generate discussion. I&#8217;ve had some great conversations here, on Twitter, and via email with many of you. I know that you are thinking [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Financial Plans are a JOKE: You Need a Planner, Not a Plan</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-738</link>
		<dc:creator>Financial Plans are a JOKE: You Need a Planner, Not a Plan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] plans and financial plans alike. The problem is that when you are making plans, someone has to be the assumer (sounds like some evil villain). And the assumer has to make some really important assumptions, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] plans and financial plans alike. The problem is that when you are making plans, someone has to be the assumer (sounds like some evil villain). And the assumer has to make some really important assumptions, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Richards</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 00:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jack. The optimizer &amp; Cable TV story is great. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jack. The optimizer &#038; Cable TV story is great. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: jackcalhoun</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-924</link>
		<dc:creator>jackcalhoun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right on with this Carl. I remember when we got our first optimizer at our firm back in the early &#039;90s and it was telling us to allocate our clients 100% to &quot;Cable TV&quot;. (Still not sure how that was an asset class to begin with!). My partner and I began putting constraints on the different asset classes until we had so many constraints that we finally looked at each other and said &quot;What&#039;s the point?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Software should be used to show clients what could happen -- not will happen, or even will likely happen. It should help clients get in touch with how they would feel if their portfolio experienced certain scenarios so we can get a sense of whether they are emotionally ready for those scenarios. But it should never be sold to the client that we are charting a certain path in clear waters thanks to what the software is spitting out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right on with this Carl. I remember when we got our first optimizer at our firm back in the early &#39;90s and it was telling us to allocate our clients 100% to &#8220;Cable TV&#8221;. (Still not sure how that was an asset class to begin with!). My partner and I began putting constraints on the different asset classes until we had so many constraints that we finally looked at each other and said &#8220;What&#39;s the point?&#8221;</p>
<p>Software should be used to show clients what could happen &#8212; not will happen, or even will likely happen. It should help clients get in touch with how they would feel if their portfolio experienced certain scenarios so we can get a sense of whether they are emotionally ready for those scenarios. But it should never be sold to the client that we are charting a certain path in clear waters thanks to what the software is spitting out.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Richards</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 23:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob: I think Dylan might have said what I was going to. I am not saying&lt;br&gt;that you shouldn&#039;t make assumptions, I am saying that they will be wrong.&lt;br&gt;These variables are not like the &quot;law of gravity&quot;. They change and we don&#039;t&lt;br&gt;have the information before the fact, so really the value of assuming&lt;br&gt;(guessing) is that it puts a stake in the ground (or placeholder as Dylan&lt;br&gt;said) until we get better info (after the fact) so that we can make course&lt;br&gt;corrections.&lt;br&gt;A plan full of guesses is worthless. A plan that serves as a general flight&lt;br&gt;plan ALONG with regular course corrections is priceless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob: I think Dylan might have said what I was going to. I am not saying<br />that you shouldn&#39;t make assumptions, I am saying that they will be wrong.<br />These variables are not like the &#8220;law of gravity&#8221;. They change and we don&#39;t<br />have the information before the fact, so really the value of assuming<br />(guessing) is that it puts a stake in the ground (or placeholder as Dylan<br />said) until we get better info (after the fact) so that we can make course<br />corrections.<br />A plan full of guesses is worthless. A plan that serves as a general flight<br />plan ALONG with regular course corrections is priceless.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I like to think of assumptions as placeholders until more accurate information is available (usually when or after it occurs).  As we update assumptions and make new ones, we are making a plan more accurate over time.  When we don&#039;t the plan becomes less accurate with the passing of time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think the involvement of an assumer turns a plan from a simple map to one of those GPS navigation systems that can recalculate your estimated time of arrival and suggest alternative routes as you run in to traffic conditions or traffic patterns that are different than you originally assumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I like to think of assumptions as placeholders until more accurate information is available (usually when or after it occurs).  As we update assumptions and make new ones, we are making a plan more accurate over time.  When we don&#39;t the plan becomes less accurate with the passing of time.</p>
<p>I think the involvement of an assumer turns a plan from a simple map to one of those GPS navigation systems that can recalculate your estimated time of arrival and suggest alternative routes as you run in to traffic conditions or traffic patterns that are different than you originally assumed.</p>
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		<title>By: RobBennett</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-921</link>
		<dc:creator>RobBennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 22:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with some of what is being said here. But I disagree more than I agree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To invest, you must make assumptions about the future. So to suggest that assuming is bad is to get on a bad path. The question is -- are the assumptions you employ reasonable or not?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am a critic of Passive Investing. That&#039;s because I view the core assumption of the Passive model -- that for the first time in history ignoring price will somehow or other work out in the long term -- to be so dangerous. My assumption is that price will always matter. I am often criticized by Passive advocates for my assumptions. I don&#039;t deny that I make them. What I deny is the idea that the Passive assumptions are somehow &quot;neutral&quot; assumptions and therefore more valid than the assumptions that show why Passive cannot work.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you want to get out of bed in the morning and accomplish stuff, you have to start with an assumption that gravity is going to continue to apply. I think that the trick is not to avoid making assumptions but to try to be as clear about the assumptions we make as possible so that over time we can make better and better assumptions.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with some of what is being said here. But I disagree more than I agree.</p>
<p>To invest, you must make assumptions about the future. So to suggest that assuming is bad is to get on a bad path. The question is &#8212; are the assumptions you employ reasonable or not?</p>
<p>I am a critic of Passive Investing. That&#39;s because I view the core assumption of the Passive model &#8212; that for the first time in history ignoring price will somehow or other work out in the long term &#8212; to be so dangerous. My assumption is that price will always matter. I am often criticized by Passive advocates for my assumptions. I don&#39;t deny that I make them. What I deny is the idea that the Passive assumptions are somehow &#8220;neutral&#8221; assumptions and therefore more valid than the assumptions that show why Passive cannot work.</p>
<p>If you want to get out of bed in the morning and accomplish stuff, you have to start with an assumption that gravity is going to continue to apply. I think that the trick is not to avoid making assumptions but to try to be as clear about the assumptions we make as possible so that over time we can make better and better assumptions.</p>
<p>Rob</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-920</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a couple of problems with assuming the worst historical numbers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1.  What if things were to get much worse than the worst we&#039;ve experienced?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;or,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.  What if, based on use of worst historical numbers, a family concludes that they have to save every last penny and invest more aggressively than they&#039;d like and they have to work longer than they would like and they can&#039;t educate their children in the manner they&#039;d prefer and they can&#039;t afford to take care of their parents in the event of a long-term illness?  And what it, after making all of these &quot;conservative&quot; assumptions, things turn out better than they planned?  Every one only gets one shot at life and that scenario potentially leaves a lot of unmet or deferred goals that they might have otherwise wanted to plan for and accomplish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regardless of who the &quot;assumer&quot; is, and it&#039;s important to know who&#039;s filling that role, there is still a balance that needs to be struck between preparing for tomorrow while still enjoying the fruits of your labor today.  That, I believe, is the true value of a trusted financial advisor/planner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick,</p>
<p>There are a couple of problems with assuming the worst historical numbers.</p>
<p>1.  What if things were to get much worse than the worst we&#39;ve experienced?</p>
<p>or,</p>
<p>2.  What if, based on use of worst historical numbers, a family concludes that they have to save every last penny and invest more aggressively than they&#39;d like and they have to work longer than they would like and they can&#39;t educate their children in the manner they&#39;d prefer and they can&#39;t afford to take care of their parents in the event of a long-term illness?  And what it, after making all of these &#8220;conservative&#8221; assumptions, things turn out better than they planned?  Every one only gets one shot at life and that scenario potentially leaves a lot of unmet or deferred goals that they might have otherwise wanted to plan for and accomplish.</p>
<p>Regardless of who the &#8220;assumer&#8221; is, and it&#39;s important to know who&#39;s filling that role, there is still a balance that needs to be struck between preparing for tomorrow while still enjoying the fruits of your labor today.  That, I believe, is the true value of a trusted financial advisor/planner.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not assume the worst historical numbers for the assumptions and then hope for better?   You can always retire a bit early if investments go well or have an extra margine of safety for retirement.  If things don&#039;t go well you should be pretty well prepared.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Rick Francis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not assume the worst historical numbers for the assumptions and then hope for better?   You can always retire a bit early if investments go well or have an extra margine of safety for retirement.  If things don&#39;t go well you should be pretty well prepared.</p>
<p>-Rick Francis</p>
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		<title>By: thinkingcarl</title>
		<link>http://www.behaviorgap.com/the-assumer/comment-page-1/#comment-708</link>
		<dc:creator>thinkingcarl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Jack. The optimizer &amp; Cable TV story is great. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Jack. The optimizer &#038; Cable TV story is great. &#8220;</p>
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